NBA Preseason DFS – Starter Minute Review

NBA preseason DFS can be tough to predict due to the erratic distribution of minutes.

While there will always be randomness, we can at least use some numbers to give us context. This can be useful for daily fantasy basketball lineup building.

The below stats look at two different factors: the coach, and the number of games remaining in the preseason for that team. Unlike the NFL, the NBA does not have a consistent number of preseason games for each team each season. In particular, the 2017-18 preseason was at most 6 games. Therefore, looking at games remaining gives us a better view.

Some notes:

  1. Data is from the past 6 seasons (2012-13 through 2017-18).
  2. Data is based on who coached the preseason. This means Steve Kerr is the coach for the 2015-16 Warriors. This also means we don’t have data for any coaches that haven’t coached in the preseason yet.

Table 1: Starters average minutes by games remaining by season.

  1. Minutes increase as the games left decrease. This is a logical result – more minutes for the starters the closer you get to real games, with a slight dip in the last game.
  2. Teams have decreased the minutes for their starters by a little over 10% over the past few seasons. Considering that teams also play fewer preseason games, this represents a sizable decrease in total minutes played by starters during the preseason.
Games Left2012-132013-142014-152015-162016-172017-18Average
Average24.7224.5624.2223.1022.5922.03-
126.1925.9225.6724.5824.1223.8325.05
226.1326.2826.0225.7925.4124.3225.66
326.1925.0925.2322.7822.923.1124.22
424.6525.2225.5522.8523.2522.0923.94
524.6524.1423.9423.1822.1520.923.16
623.0923.4523.3322.3421.1417.9121.88
722.5522.9622.0921.320.88-21.96
824.3323.421.921.9820.89-22.50

Table 2: Starters average minutes by coach.

  1. Not surprising to see Tom Thibodeau leading the list at 25.94 minutes per starter per game. He is notorious for running his players heavy minutes. In fact, he had Jimmy Butler play all 48 minutes of a preseason game in 2012.
  2. However, his lead is small, with Doc Rivers basically exactly equal, and several other coaches not far behind.
  3. At the other end we have Kenny Atkinson at 20.9 minutes, almost 20% less than Thibs.
  4. Gregg Popovich being tied for 2nd lowest isn’t surprising – he is known for limiting playing time during the regular season as well.
CoachMPTeam
Tom Thibodeau25.94Minnesota Timberwolves
Doc Rivers25.9Los Angeles Clippers
Terry Stotts25.36Portland Trail Blazers
Steve Clifford25.18Orlando Magic
Mike Malone24.47Denver Nuggets
Nate McMillan24.35Indiana Pacers
Mike D'Antoni24.27Houston Rockets
Quin Snyder24.16Utah Jazz
Scott Brooks24.01Washington Wizards
Billy Donovan24Oklahoma City Thunder
Brett Brown23.65Philadelphia 76ers
Rick Carlisle23.51Dallas Mavericks
Erik Spoelstra23.46Miami Heat
Steve Kerr23.44Golden State Warriors
Fred Hoiberg23.38Chicago Bulls
Alvin Gentry22.8New Orleans Pelicans
Dave Joerger22.8Sacramento Kings
Dwane Casey22.33Detroit Pistons
Luke Walton22.26Los Angeles Lakers
Tyronn Lue22.01Cleveland Cavaliers
Brad Stevens21.92Boston Celtics
David Fizdale21.43New York Knicks
Gregg Popovich21.43San Antonio Spurs
Kenny Atkinson20.9Brooklyn Nets

Table 3: Starters average minutes by coach by season.

Similar to the above data, but broken down by season. This allows you to see changes in coaches approaches over time or dive into specific seasons. Use the search feature to narrow down by coach, season, or team.

  1. While Tom Thibodeau has the highest average over the past 6 seasons, it was Mike D’Antonio leading all coaches last season, at a massive 28.01 minutes per starter per game.
  2. Scott Brooks’ starters only averaged 19.5 minutes per game, more than 30% less than D’Antonio.
  3. An additional Thibs note: he does seem to be pulling back his starter’s minutes. In 2012-13 they averaged 28.63 minutes, but the average has been below 25 minutes for the past two seasons.
  4. Brett Brown has also pulled back significantly – 27.23 minutes in 2013-14, down to 20.95 minutes last season.
CoachSeasonMPCurrent Team
Alvin Gentry2012-1322.12New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry2015-1622.38New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry2016-1723.54New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry2017-1823.6New Orleans Pelicans
Avery Johnson2012-1326.14None
Billy Donovan2015-1624.31Oklahoma City Thunder
Billy Donovan2016-1723.96Oklahoma City Thunder
Billy Donovan2017-1823.59Oklahoma City Thunder
Brad Stevens2013-1424.2Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens2014-1524.57Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens2015-1620.28Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens2016-1718.46Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens2017-1821.1Boston Celtics
Brett Brown2013-1427.23Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown2014-1525.46Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown2015-1624.25Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown2016-1719.34Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown2017-1820.95Philadelphia 76ers
Brian Shaw2013-1422.26None
Brian Shaw2014-1520.57None
Byron Scott2012-1323.75None
Byron Scott2014-1525.39None
Byron Scott2015-1620.91None
Dave Joerger2013-1424.54Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger2014-1521.24Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger2015-1624.1Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger2016-1721.21Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger2017-1822.64Sacramento Kings
David Blatt2014-1525.45None
David Blatt2015-1622.65None
David Fizdale2016-1721.96New York Knicks
David Fizdale2017-1820.8New York Knicks
Derek Fisher2014-1521.27None
Derek Fisher2015-1620.35None
Doc Rivers2012-1325.17Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers2013-1427.29Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers2014-1528.64Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers2015-1623.27Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers2016-1723.57Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers2017-1826.43Los Angeles Clippers
Doug Collins2012-1326.94None
Dwane Casey2012-1324.14Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey2013-1421.73Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey2014-1521.49Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey2015-1622.37Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey2016-1722.53Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey2017-1821.66Detroit Pistons
Earl Watson2016-1724.96None
Earl Watson2017-1824.85None
Erik Spoelstra2012-1324.01Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra2013-1423.97Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra2014-1524.38Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra2015-1623.25Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra2016-1723.36Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra2017-1821.23Miami Heat
Flip Saunders2014-1522.65None
Frank Vogel2012-1325.56None
Frank Vogel2013-1424.94None
Frank Vogel2014-1523.73None
Frank Vogel2015-1622.36None
Frank Vogel2016-1727.49None
Frank Vogel2017-1822.7None
Fred Hoiberg2015-1624.55Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg2016-1722.75Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg2017-1822.55Chicago Bulls
George Karl2012-1325.79None
George Karl2015-1624.81None
Gregg Popovich2012-1320.19San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich2013-1419.56San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich2014-1525.4San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich2015-1620.9San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich2016-1720.2San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich2017-1822.17San Antonio Spurs
Jacque Vaughn2012-1324.75None
Jacque Vaughn2013-1424.75None
Jacque Vaughn2014-1525.3None
Jason Kidd2013-1420.57None
Jason Kidd2014-1524.47None
Jason Kidd2015-1623.47None
Jason Kidd2016-1723.92None
Jason Kidd2017-1821.79None
Jeff Hornacek2013-1422.06None
Jeff Hornacek2014-1522.83None
Jeff Hornacek2015-1622.84None
Jeff Hornacek2016-1720.72None
Jeff Hornacek2017-1822.02None
Keith Smart2012-1322.12None
Kenny Atkinson2016-1720.44Brooklyn Nets
Kenny Atkinson2017-1821.58Brooklyn Nets
Kevin McHale2012-1324.64None
Kevin McHale2013-1424.86None
Kevin McHale2014-1521.92None
Kevin McHale2015-1624.22None
Larry Drew2012-1321.75None
Larry Drew2013-1425.77None
Lawrence Frank2012-1325.03None
Lionel Hollins2012-1325.38None
Lionel Hollins2014-1525.48None
Lionel Hollins2015-1625.02None
Luke Walton2015-1621.48Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton2016-1723.7Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton2017-1821.24Los Angeles Lakers
Mark Jackson2012-1325.52None
Mark Jackson2013-1425.73None
Maurice Cheeks2013-1429.26None
Mike Brown2012-1326.55None
Mike Brown2013-1423.45None
Mike Budenholzer2013-1427.19None
Mike Budenholzer2014-1523.57None
Mike Budenholzer2015-1623.07None
Mike Budenholzer2016-1723.59None
Mike Budenholzer2017-1821.21None
Mike D'Antoni2013-1422.51Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni2016-1723.61Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni2017-1828.01Houston Rockets
Mike Dunlap2012-1325.53None
Mike Malone2013-1424.51Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone2014-1523.42Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone2015-1625.85Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone2016-1724.51Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone2017-1823.9Denver Nuggets
Mike Woodson2012-1323.95None
Mike Woodson2013-1423.79None
Monty Williams2012-1326.96None
Monty Williams2013-1424.6None
Monty Williams2014-1521.4None
Nate McMillan2016-1725.14Indiana Pacers
Nate McMillan2017-1823.16Indiana Pacers
Quin Snyder2014-1527.6Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder2015-1624.22Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder2016-1721.89Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder2017-1821.28Utah Jazz
Randy Wittman2012-1322.72None
Randy Wittman2013-1425.72None
Randy Wittman2014-1523.94None
Randy Wittman2015-1624.1None
Rick Adelman2012-1324.65None
Rick Adelman2013-1423.03None
Rick Carlisle2012-1326.93Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle2013-1424.49Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle2014-1523.84Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle2015-1622.31Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle2016-1720.73Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle2017-1821.71Dallas Mavericks
Sam Mitchell2015-1620.89None
Scott Brooks2012-1324.73Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks2013-1426.41Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks2014-1525.28Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks2016-1722.84Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks2017-1819.5Washington Wizards
Scott Skiles2012-1323.81None
Scott Skiles2015-1623.97None
Stan Van Gundy2014-1529.2None
Stan Van Gundy2015-1625.98None
Stan Van Gundy2016-1727.3None
Stan Van Gundy2017-1826.56None
Steve Clifford2013-1427.28Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford2014-1528.83Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford2015-1623.14Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford2016-1722.5Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford2017-1822.98Orlando Magic
Steve Kerr2014-1523.83Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr2016-1723.06Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr2017-1823.33Golden State Warriors
Terry Stotts2012-1326.31Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts2013-1426.32Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts2014-1524.76Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts2015-1626.99Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts2016-1723.22Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts2017-1824.43Portland Trail Blazers
Tom Thibodeau2012-1328.63Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau2013-1425.92Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau2014-1525Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau2016-1724.94Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau2017-1824.59Minnesota Timberwolves
Tyrone Corbin2012-1322.78None
Tyrone Corbin2013-1424.68None
Tyronn Lue2016-1722.56Cleveland Cavaliers
Tyronn Lue2017-1821.34Cleveland Cavaliers
Vinny Del Negro2012-1325.93None

Table 4: Starters average minutes by coach by games remaining.

This final table breaks down the data by coach and games remaining. Be aware of small sample sizes – look at the trend, not just the exact numbers.

CoachGames LeftMPTeam
Alvin Gentry125.91New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry229.17New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry320.46New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry421.64New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry520.87New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry619.53New Orleans Pelicans
Alvin Gentry718.65New Orleans Pelicans
Billy Donovan125.21Oklahoma City Thunder
Billy Donovan226.97Oklahoma City Thunder
Billy Donovan322.55Oklahoma City Thunder
Billy Donovan421.64Oklahoma City Thunder
Billy Donovan524.46Oklahoma City Thunder
Billy Donovan622.96Oklahoma City Thunder
Brad Stevens119.81Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens220.92Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens322.53Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens422.49Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens522.74Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens622.98Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens720.16Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens826.56Boston Celtics
Brett Brown123.82Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown225.01Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown322.99Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown423.49Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown524.08Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown624.32Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown721.75Philadelphia 76ers
Brett Brown822.97Philadelphia 76ers
Dave Joerger122.15Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger225.18Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger325.35Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger424.37Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger524.71Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger620.1Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger716.87Sacramento Kings
Dave Joerger819.02Sacramento Kings
David Fizdale120.37New York Knicks
David Fizdale225.26New York Knicks
David Fizdale323.3New York Knicks
David Fizdale421.94New York Knicks
David Fizdale518.84New York Knicks
David Fizdale616.34New York Knicks
Doc Rivers127.13Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers227.01Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers327.04Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers426.33Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers526.45Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers623.78Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers722.32Los Angeles Clippers
Doc Rivers824.15Los Angeles Clippers
Dwane Casey124.16Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey224.18Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey322.24Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey420.62Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey521.37Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey621.8Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey721.91Detroit Pistons
Dwane Casey821.64Detroit Pistons
Erik Spoelstra122.54Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra225.57Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra323.19Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra424.94Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra524.01Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra621.86Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra723.3Miami Heat
Erik Spoelstra821.71Miami Heat
Fred Hoiberg123.72Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg224.77Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg325.5Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg423.76Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg522.6Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg621.29Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg719.96Chicago Bulls
Fred Hoiberg826.1Chicago Bulls
Gregg Popovich124.76San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich221.66San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich319.86San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich420.6San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich520.9San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich621.07San Antonio Spurs
Gregg Popovich720.6San Antonio Spurs
Kenny Atkinson120.75Brooklyn Nets
Kenny Atkinson221.62Brooklyn Nets
Kenny Atkinson323.52Brooklyn Nets
Kenny Atkinson420.96Brooklyn Nets
Kenny Atkinson517.69Brooklyn Nets
Kenny Atkinson617.56Brooklyn Nets
Luke Walton122.62Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton223.46Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton321.75Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton420.34Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton522.61Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton624.67Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton720.29Los Angeles Lakers
Luke Walton820.44Los Angeles Lakers
Mike D'Antoni127.25Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni224.98Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni323.62Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni421.91Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni526.66Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni624.88Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni720.71Houston Rockets
Mike D'Antoni820.98Houston Rockets
Mike Malone123.41Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone227.31Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone325Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone424.47Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone522.16Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone625.25Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone724.52Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone821.11Denver Nuggets
Nate McMillan126.5Indiana Pacers
Nate McMillan228.13Indiana Pacers
Nate McMillan321.93Indiana Pacers
Nate McMillan423.77Indiana Pacers
Nate McMillan521.37Indiana Pacers
Nate McMillan621.44Indiana Pacers
Quin Snyder124.58Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder225.79Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder321.42Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder423.97Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder523.31Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder622.89Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder728.58Utah Jazz
Quin Snyder825.98Utah Jazz
Rick Carlisle126.5Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle225.46Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle324.64Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle421.48Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle523Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle620.22Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle723.36Dallas Mavericks
Rick Carlisle823.16Dallas Mavericks
Scott Brooks126.25Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks225.99Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks321.06Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks424.78Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks522.11Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks625.67Washington Wizards
Scott Brooks722.17Washington Wizards
Steve Clifford127.41Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford228.5Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford326.43Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford422.28Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford524.5Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford624.44Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford723.61Orlando Magic
Steve Clifford822.87Orlando Magic
Steve Kerr126.54Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr227.48Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr320.62Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr423.96Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr523.2Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr621.95Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr719.49Golden State Warriors
Steve Kerr820.33Golden State Warriors
Terry Stotts128.03Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts225.45Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts328.06Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts424.61Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts524.39Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts624.1Portland Trail Blazers
Terry Stotts722.38Portland Trail Blazers
Tom Thibodeau129.04Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau227.74Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau325.51Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau427.61Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau524.98Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau624.25Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau723.23Minnesota Timberwolves
Tom Thibodeau822.23Minnesota Timberwolves
Tyronn Lue117.68Cleveland Cavaliers
Tyronn Lue228.6Cleveland Cavaliers
Tyronn Lue324.82Cleveland Cavaliers
Tyronn Lue426.14Cleveland Cavaliers
Tyronn Lue515.83Cleveland Cavaliers
Tyronn Lue615.89Cleveland Cavaliers